tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post1984722153897195755..comments2023-10-18T15:34:51.671+03:00Comments on One day in Hania...: ProofreadingMaria Verivakihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10440852486788630957noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-79882052694810933182008-12-07T21:18:00.000+02:002008-12-07T21:18:00.000+02:00I feel strange for this FYROM-GREECE matter. I tho...I feel strange for this FYROM-GREECE matter. I thought at first that it wouldn't be bad for the Skopians to call their country "Macedonia". In fact that would be something that it would connect the two countries and make them extreemly frinds! But...as soon as I heard their prime minister say that their real capital is Thessaloniki and that Alexander the Great was a Macedonian-Skopian,I realised that everything was a political isue and play! I could agree that he had several palaces (there and here) and that he's a common personality of both histories, but I can't understand this fanaticism at the issue. I sometimes can't understand Greeks either who refuse to talk about a common solution that will satisfy both sides....Anyway, I hope we'll find the right way to solve that matter because until now the only part that gains is USA, which is playing the interceder for its benefit ofcourse!Marinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00520968516423815745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-80038757662240092082008-12-07T16:07:00.000+02:002008-12-07T16:07:00.000+02:00Contentious ++ ! It is Hellas in Greek script, is...Contentious ++ ! It is Hellas in Greek script, is it not.<BR/><BR/>Put your sepia on MM - it is allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-18296956301146035672008-12-07T15:57:00.000+02:002008-12-07T15:57:00.000+02:00i still see GR most of the time, instead of EL -no...i still see GR most of the time, instead of EL -<BR/>not that it worries me, but i don't think we should be so tolerant of being known by a name that was used derogatorily towards us by non-friends. i also think we should make a greater effort to be known as HELLENES for the same reason that other countries (and cities) in the world have done the same thing (changed their name) and succeeded (the world knows them by the new name)<BR/>I think it shows there is something wrong in the way we advertise ourselves, our PR image, our organisation, our collaborative efforts, which is why we aren't taken seriously.Maria Verivakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10440852486788630957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-71381904537756537882008-12-07T15:45:00.000+02:002008-12-07T15:45:00.000+02:00You are making some really good observations with ...You are making some really good observations with this article...<BR/><BR/>Giving a name to this region is going to be very difficult. As with every "difficult conversation" this one is driven by fear. And this kind of fear is maintained by maps showing Thessaloniki as part of FYROM and news over to the other side about harassment of Skopian or Former Yuogoslavian families by the Greek army or police officers or what ever else with an authority tag. The fear will not go away with "middlemen" trying to come up with a name full of "beeds and mirrors" for both sides to accept.<BR/>The fear will not go away with other ethnic minorities within the North of Greece feeling like having a go at being "independent".<BR/><BR/>If anything we are probably failing to work all together. To collaborate and all stay on the see-saw and have fun, than trying to push each other of it and try to have all the fun attributed to one side only.<BR/><BR/>A past primeminister was talking about "the coming of the multicultural society" (because of the European Union and immigration he wanted to make the point that Greeks should start accepting other people and see the benefits in working WITH them than looking at them as Ξένοι....unfortunately the whole thing was implemented badly....or rather, not implemented at all)<BR/><BR/>What "coming" of a multicultural society????? Greece has been a multicultural society for AGES!<BR/>If you look at the bigger picture we are composed of:<BR/>Κύπριους, Πόντιους (και κάποιους Αρμένιους), Μικρασιάτες, Πομάκους, Βορειοηπειρώτες and even Mulsim Greeks and communities at the North of Greece.....We don't come out as a coherent bunch though. So, somehow it is natural for everyone to think...."I better work for my own good and my own good only!"<BR/><BR/>If it was up to the simple folk, everything would be in order because society self-regulates...<BR/><BR/>As far as the Hellenic term is concerned, Greece is referred to as Hellas in all official documents since some time now. We are referred to as Hellenic Republic and acronymed as EL. As a brief example, you can have a look at the current <A HREF="http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page?_pageid=2693,70381876,2693_70592044&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL" REL="nofollow">Eurostat yearbook</A><BR/><BR/>Nothing stops us from being introduced as Hellenes and use the term. But Έλληνας has been known as The Greek for so long now that it is going to be slightly difficult to changeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-61326899511441571022008-12-07T15:34:00.000+02:002008-12-07T15:34:00.000+02:00I don't know what to say about the country name pr...I don't know what to say about the country name problem. Even the Swiss can't agree on a name for their country (but that is a different matter). :) But I'm very interested to learn of your proofreading skills. Back when I had a real job, it was doing editing, proofreading, and translating. It's challenging work, eh? <BR/>Good luck.Dinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03461925401870320466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-66888796066403038882008-12-07T13:31:00.000+02:002008-12-07T13:31:00.000+02:00I had no idea about all this! I always just contin...I had no idea about all this! I always just continued to say Macedonia and have never heard of Skopia! A wonderful post!Gemma Wisemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466540188839321484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-1866499969073943442008-12-07T11:09:00.000+02:002008-12-07T11:09:00.000+02:00Since I for a number of years taught and worked wi...Since I for a number of years taught and worked with a lady from Macedonia ("The real- one"), I have heard quite a lot about that questions - and as you say, no easy solution seemed imminent. But your solution seem simple - we and several other countries have practised it for years: The country's name is Hellas.<BR/><BR/>BTW: kohlrabi (we write it kålrabi) is also known as Swedish turnips. We use it a lot.Rune Eidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01008247272056395901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-19870674555877644982008-12-07T10:27:00.000+02:002008-12-07T10:27:00.000+02:00Proofreading a thesis is a kind of prepackaged nig...Proofreading a thesis is a kind of prepackaged nightmare unless it is extremely limited to something you really know or understand. I read your whole piece and found it absolutely stunning. I knew none of this so it is quite the revelation. I agree that Hellas seems a fair way to say what you mean without saying something that upsets those on either side of the fence. But to know all of this is to be a super smart person, period.<BR/><BR/>Far from being that "loopey mother" you claim in the sidebar, you must border on genius and therefore, different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-24351282258728299322008-12-07T09:08:00.000+02:002008-12-07T09:08:00.000+02:00that was a very interesting and educative post. th...that was a very interesting and educative post. thank you.magiceyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848851692951192508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7864116380117888144.post-90178420975001739872008-12-07T07:34:00.000+02:002008-12-07T07:34:00.000+02:00For those who know well the history of the region,...For those who know well the history of the region, Mecedonia is Greek. But, as we live in a crazy world, some guys have other interests and targets... Anyway FYROM is the correct name.Phivos Nicolaideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09149376242558001013noreply@blogger.com